An
Interview
By
David Rondinelli
Katherine McDowell is a corporate actress and part time princess as she
performs at many different firms and events all over the country. Growing up near
a dormant volcano in a small town from Northern California ,
McDowell refers to it as a place where rednecks and hippies coexist peacefully.
By
David Rondinelli
Katherine McDowell out of costume |
An
extensive traveler throughout her whole life, she has seen many parts of the U.S. and Europe ,
which has given her an alternative education and a world wide scope.
It was at 18 that she set her sites onNew York City where
she was accepted into Tisch
School of the Arts for
their BFA program. The travel bug hit again and she spent two semesters
abroad in Ireland and Italy and most of Western
Europe . From there, an MA at King’s College London in conjunction
with the RADA (Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts) was the next step and a
“fantastic experience” according to McDowell.
McDowell currently resides on the It was at 18 that she set her sites on
Still an avid traveler, she hopes to leave the country once a year, but always finds
This Peculiar Life NYC:
When did you know you wanted to be an actress?
Katherine McDowell: I was set on acting from the
age of 10 or so. My trajectory as a child when asked what I wanted to be
when I grew up: teacher, lawyer, mediator, president, actress. My parents
had both worked in the film industry and were supportive of an artist child, a
fact I still find regularly shocking as a pseudo adult myself. It reminds
me of what open minded and creative people they are. My first major role
was a summer program at the local junior college for kids, I was the villain in
a melodrama The Villain Who Wore a Dirty
Shirt It was with great regret that as I got older I realized A.) I’m
not generally cast as a villain and B.) I’m rarely cast in male roles.
Which is probably why I love Shakespeare so much, they often let women play
roles written for men.
TPL NYC: You do a specialized type of acting, can
you explain it and how it helps the different companies you work with?
KM: My primary form of paid acting is corporate acting. It is working with a corporation to help their employees learn a skill set and then offer an immediate practice opportunity through role play. Companies find it really useful as a form of continued education for their employees. It provides a safe forum for people to learn new skill sets and have a seemingly real practical application without the risk of making mistakes in a professional setting where there could be lasting effects. Companies sometimes have individuals do role play with other people in the organization, which can be complicated because they’re not as skilled at role play and there may be other ego or embarrassment issues in the way when working within a peer group. When working with a professional third party it removes those boundaries creating a more beneficial experience for the participants and with better results for the company.
KM: My primary form of paid acting is corporate acting. It is working with a corporation to help their employees learn a skill set and then offer an immediate practice opportunity through role play. Companies find it really useful as a form of continued education for their employees. It provides a safe forum for people to learn new skill sets and have a seemingly real practical application without the risk of making mistakes in a professional setting where there could be lasting effects. Companies sometimes have individuals do role play with other people in the organization, which can be complicated because they’re not as skilled at role play and there may be other ego or embarrassment issues in the way when working within a peer group. When working with a professional third party it removes those boundaries creating a more beneficial experience for the participants and with better results for the company.
TPL NYC: I actually never heard of people role
playing and acting out different corporate scenarios for communication and
training effectiveness. Is this a newer field or has this type of job been
around for a while?
KM: I think it’s relatively new in the business
world, at least in the US .
It’s very established in the UK .
Similar work has been in place for some time as an educational tool in other
settings in the US .
Medical and Law Schools will often hire actors to interact with students to
help them deal with real people instead of just ideas on a paper. I think
it’s something we will see more of in professional settings with the idea of
continuing to educate a workforce. As our education system focuses more
on test based success, our people skills aren’t being developed and this is
becoming more important in organizations.
McDowell as Rapunzel |
TPL NYC: Can you take me through a typical day for
you when you have to work with different companies?
KM: Once we’ve arrived at the venue (be it local
or somewhere else in the country) we have a quick check in with the people
running the course. As the acting group, we number from 2-6 people all
dressed in business appropriate outfits. The course facilitators are
typically professionals in the skill set being taught that day.
A
few weeks before the actual event each actor will have received their briefs
and the timings of the actor required activities for the event. The
evening prior we will have discussed what topics will be covered and any
details we will need to be aware of with the facilitators.
Once
the course participants have arrived there is a short introduction. Typically
the actors are seated in the back of the room or off to the side and also take
a moment to introduce ourselves.
While
the facilitators are running their presentation, our job is to be as attentive
and unobtrusive. We don’t interact much during this time, the
facilitator’s focus is to deliver the necessary information and the course
participants are trying to learn the techniques and make their own
discoveries. The actors might be called upon to perform together or with a
facilitator to demonstrate some of the skill sets being discussed during this
early part of the day.
After
lunch the actor’s work really comes into play. Each course participant is
handed a brief describing the situation to be discussed with an “employee” and
a short hand of their relationship. After a brief preparation they begin
with their actor. Generally a group is made of three course participants
and one actor, one course participant participating in the role play while the
other two observe and offer appropriate feedback.
During
the role play it is the actor’s job to reveal the necessary information, have
an informed and realistic understanding of their role and options, and offer
feedback appropriate to their participant’s level. For example, if
someone is really good at the skill set, it is the actor’s job to increase the
challenge. If someone is really struggling, the actor should help guide
the participant through gentle hints or revealing of information beyond the
asked format while maintaining character.
We
provide multiple role plays for each participant, and then provide feedback
immediately following with what worked and what didn’t. Our job is to be
as helpful as possible while letting the participants draw their own
conclusions.
TPL NYC: How did you find a job doing this and
what made you want to get involved in this type of acting?
KM: Luck!
I was doing a staged reading tour in the McDowell as Ariel |
KM: I think every time I’ve done this work I’ve
had a different character. Though I’ve done several jobs for the same
company, I’ll end up with a different character to specifically address the
needs of the participants on that course. A lot of it is personality
base, and though I have some knowledge about my role in the company and the
structure, what it really comes down to is playing a human being who has fears
and needs and desires.
Often,
participants will have the opportunity to bring in their own scenario they want
to practice. In that setting, I only have a few minutes to discuss with
the individual what the person they are dealing with is like and just do my
best to help them practice the skill set and provide the best mirror.
It’s always a tremendous compliment when they say how much I was like the
person they are struggling to communicate with, especially when it’s a
60-year-old man.
TPL NYC: What
type of scenario do you have to perform the most?
KM: There isn’t really one scenario, and with a
group of actors I may end up working a different scenario while one of my
colleagues has a role I have done previously. I’ve worked the most at
“coaching” seminars, where middle management is learning the skills to coach an
up-and-coming direct report. It’s using different skills and roadblocks
to help them figure out the best way to do that.
TPL NYC: What type of insights have you learned
about people and corporations from doing this type of work?
KM: Honestly I’ve worked for some companies that I
have personal misgivings towards. I’m a very conscientious person in my
daily life. I try to eat sustainable, organic, local foods when possible,
shop free trade organic products, and support companies who have an ethos and
perception that this planet is a group effort. So I had some ethical
questions about first working with big companies that really don’t reflect
these values.
What
I’ve come to realize is that all companies are filled with people having individual
experiences. A lot of these employees aren’t out to destroy the world as
we know it, they’re simply working in a job that they find personally
fulfilling or that hired them for their aptitude. They are filled with
needs and hopes and fears and dreams just like everyone else. I am less
quick to judge people based on where they live or what they do, because it’s
simply what they know. I mostly do work to help improve communication and
awareness. In some small way, I’m having a positive impact on these companies
and the world at large.
TPL NYC: Do you get to have any hands on
experience like writing the script? Do you have to be dressed a particular way?
KM: I receive my “actor brief” that is already
written through the REACT office working with an employee of the participating
company. Everything has already been determined before I even see the
information. Sometimes, if I’ve worked the course or company before, I
can provide feedback or questions on the script to make sure it’s as useful as
possible for the task at hand.
We
are expected to dress in a corporate appropriate manner, basically slacks
and a button down. Rarely are full suits necessary, but sometimes that is
the corporate climate. I have a section of my wardrobe reserved for this
kind of work.
TPL NYC: You
are also a part time princess. Tell me which princess you are and how often you
get to be her?
KM: I actually run a princess company, so I am all the princesses! I do anywhere from 1-4 parties a weekend, and also have some other wonderful princes and princesses who are available if I’m too busy.
KM: I lived in Berkeley , CA
for a couple years and was selling windows as my day job while pursuing acting
opportunities in the Bay Area. Not computer windows, the type that you
actually hang into your home. It was interesting for the first few
months, but once I’d learned all there is to know about windows I was
bored. I happened to attend a party one night with some friends and was
chatting with a girl there. When she found out I was an actress with a
boring day job she told me I should be a princess. At the time, I didn’t
even know that was a possible job description.
I
worked for Fire Pixie in California
for about a year before I moved back to NY. After I moved back they
contacted me about franchising the Fire Pixie brand. So a few years ago I
started to offer Fire Pixie on the East Coast. It’s nice to have a
network to belong to and I have a lot of autonomy. It really is just
running my own little company, and all the joys and pitfalls that includes.
TPL NYC: When you go to audition as a princess is
there one in mind that you use to get into character?
KM: I don’t ever audition as a princess, unless
it’s for a stage play. And I haven’t actually been called upon to do
that. I did attend a Disney cruise open call once for Princesses
once. That involved a simple dance routine, and height measurement and
facial scrutiny. They have a very specific thing they’re looking for at
those events.
When
I do a party I try and have a few elements of that princess in mind when I
perform as her. I also have to know all about her reality. There is
nothing more embarrassing than forgetting your prince’s name.
TPL NYC: Do you do any other creative fields like
singing or dancing as well? What is the process like for those endeavors?
KM: I dance and sing for pleasure, but they’re not
currently part of my professional pursuits. A lot of actors are also
singers/dancers and for things like musical theatre the audition process is
much the same. The singers and dancers attend open “chorus call”
auditions to show off their particular talent specifically. There are
many different forms of singing and dancing, and the experience for an aspiring
opera singer or ballerina is very different from someone pursuing musical
theatre.
TPL NYC: This is a two part question, but who
inspires you professionally and personally?
KM: Professionally I’m inspired by sane performers
who create beautiful performances. I love Maggie Smith, Cate Blanchett,
and Audrey Tatou. Katharine Hepburn is a legend for a reason, and she was
so smart and wasn’t afraid to live her own experience. I am inspired by
performers who seem to have found the balance between creating art and being a
real person. I think there is a romanticism that as an actor you must be
conflicted or struggling, a bit crazy, and people love to glorify that.
I’m far more interested in an actor who is creating beautiful art with good
intention and at the same time maintaining a balance and reality in their life.
This
concept leads to who inspires me personally. I find myself repeatedly
drawn to the writings Thich Naht Hahn, a Vietnamese monk. Other Eastern
writings of Swami’s and the works of Marianne Williamson also serve as
discussion points and inspiration. At the heart of inspiration is this
desire to live fully in this experience of living this life. At this
point, I find the concept of awareness to be a key element of that
desire. Writings that help remind me of this idea and deepen my
understanding are the most inspiring to me at this point in my life.
TPL NYC: By learning to become someone else, what
do you feel it has granted you in terms of understanding human relationships?
Do you feel that it has made you a more effective communicator, or do you feel
that is allows to present yourself with more mystique by being able to become
anyone else?
KM: I think the job of the actor is to allow
people to access experiences they’ve stopped allowing themselves to feel.
At the heart of all of my work is this desire to communicate as clearly as
possible. I have to understand my characters needs and desires and
impulses, where do they come from and why do I do these things in this
moment? Only by having a clear understanding myself can I begin to allow
the audience to travel with me on this journey.
McDowell as a woodland fairy |
I
have found ways to make even the worst character sympathetic, at least to
myself. This ability to accept all people in all ways I think has made me
a far more sympathetic individual. To put myself in someone else’s shoes
makes it much easier to communicate with someone who I do not agree with.
I
suppose I could use it to be mysterious and cryptic, but I’m much more
interested in seeing if I can help people connect. Most people are trying
so hard to not connect that it can feel very strange when someone is very
present with you.
TPL NYC: What type of characters do you enjoy
acting like the most?
KM: I love doing villains. I really
do. There is no true villain in a play, there is always a redeeming
quality, and often they have the most transformative journey. They are
complex and they require a lot of work from the actor to not pass judgment on
the character’s bad actions. Often it is the villain who the audience needs to
see to understand where they harbor those worst parts of themselves and why
they choose to not act from those dark places.
Villains
most often are the complex roles, but truthfully any role that has internal
conflict is of interest. Often the ingénue does not have much (if any)
conflict that isn’t imposed upon her.
TPL NYC: Can you cry on cue? If so, how do you get
yourself to do that? Same thing with other types of emotions, do you find them
organically, or do you have a trained technique?
KM: I can cry on cue. I actually used to cry
for my friends mom when we were little. She was so fascinated by it she
would say “OK, you can stay and play another hour but you have to cry.” And I
would stop laughing and playing and go up to her with tears in my eyes. I
would think of sad things or just sink to that place inside where you feel your
chest tightening.
In
a true performance setting it’s normally a variety of factors that come into
play. A well written play performed with other great actors will
naturally lead you to have the emotional journey of tears or rage or
love. If you aren’t feeling connected to your own experience, or the play
isn’t great, or your other actors aren’t really available there are a lot of
techniques available. I trained at the Stella Adler Studio of Acting,
which focuses on an imaginative technique. What if you were really
there? I use this along with physical cues. If you’re feeling
joyful and want to feel sad, collapse your chest and drop your chin. If
you’re feeling awful sit up straight and let a small smile tickle the edge of
your lips. It is like magic.
TPL NYC: What’s next for you? Do you have any
projects coming up that you can fill us in on?
KM: At the moment there is nothing on the
immediate horizon. My corporate acting gigs are normally only given a few
weeks notice, and the holiday season typically brings everything to a
halt. There are some kid’s parties coming up, and the audition season is
very busy at the beginning of the year.
TPL NYC: Is there a role that you would like to
see yourself in the most?
KM: I would love to play Imogen from Shakespeare’s
Cymbeline. She’s the ingénue role but she has so much going on.
McDowell as a star-spangled jester |
TPL NYC: So this blog is about peculiar things.
What is the most peculiar thing you have experienced while acting?
KM: Oh my…peculiar things. I think the whole
experience of performing is peculiar. It is a pretty surreal place to be.
The theatre is full of moments where you improvise a missing prop, a
forgotten line; where you fall in love with someone you can’t stand backstage
or hate someone who is your best friend. It is so constantly peculiar
that in a strange way the truly peculiar moments are the normal ones.
Like eating the peanut butter sandwich after the end of the play each night
that your character doesn’t touch in the second act, because you’re hungry, and
why waste a sandwich? But at the same time it’s a prop and imbued with
all this meaning.
TPL NYC: In a similar way, what is the most
peculiar thing you have ever experienced in your life?
KM: The most peculiar thing? That sounds
like it has to be something really dramatic. I don’t know that I find
anything peculiar these days, it’s all just part of life. Normal is just something
we sort of tenuously agreed upon at some point, so peculiar is everything
outside that realm of normal. Yet normal means different things in
different parts of the world. What is normal in India (elephants as a form of transportation) is very
peculiar here. I think I’ll have to leave it to you to continue to route
out the peculiar elements in the world.
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